Nan introduces the topic of the emerging threat of China’s push to control Americans’ heath care.

Amy recalls last weeks story of “the bad joke”, describing how the two brothers received extensive prison sentences for telling a joke. Amy begins talking about her siblings, starting with her older brother a research engineer in an optical fiber company. She recalls getting a phone call from her husband instructing her to come home immediately. Her husband explained that her brother only had two months to live. Her brother was diagnosed with a rare disease.

Amy and her husband began searching for things they could do. Her husband was a medical practice lawyer, so they had some good connections. They found someone who was doing experimental gene therapy in San Francisco. They heard that the brothers condition was likely caused by exposure to a toxin. Amy recalls what a wonderful selfless person her brother was. She called him and asked him how he might have been exposed to a toxin.

He began to tell her a story he had never told anyone. While Amy was in the re-education camp, her brother was sent to a vocational school at an undisclosed location in Shanghai. He was being trained for some type of military related research.

Amy calls that all the opera houses were closed during the Cultural Revolution except for the propaganda performances. Amy’s brother loved traditional Chinese Opera. He even sang in a Opera fan club, which was no longer allowed during the Cultural Revolution.

She recounts her brothers story about the Officers at a propaganda opera in which some of the audience laughed when an actor forgot their lines. Amy’s brother had been one who laughed quite loudly. The Peoples Liberation Army officers got on stage and ordered the audience to be quiet. Her brother was subsequently accused of starting the laughter. He was beaten. Afterwards, he was sent to a semiconductor production line, where there was no protection from the chemicals. People were sent there to be punished. Often workers would only last 6 months or a year. Amy saw a photo of him some time later, looking much thinner and missing some teach.

On March 8th 1995, her brother passed away from the toxin. Amy scattered his ashes in Hawaii. Amy recounts the emotional eulogy she gave to her brother.

Billy remarks that it is hard to know how bad the repression can be, until you hear one of Amy’s stories.

Nan notes that the Chinese Regime has been investing millions of dollars in US companies, during with significant data was stolen.

Nan suggests that DNA technology is neither good nor bad. It depends how it is used.

He recalls that patient zero in the US for COVID was in Seattle. Beijing Genomics Institute is a Chinese company with significant CCP financial backing dating back to 2010, who offered significant aid to Washington State to build a COVID testing lab. Washington turned down the offer. Nan points out that corporations exchanged that data from US companies was often extracted by Chinese companies who offered significant investment in exchange for partnerships.

Amy suggests that DNA data is particularly sensitive. She describes how there is significant investment in biological research in China, because of the potential power that can be exercised by emerging technologies.

Billy interjects on the topic of, noting that certain health concerns can be traced to family lines allowing medical related targeting.

Nan mentions efforts to try and revise the genes of soldiers to make “super soldiers”.

Billy mentions that John F. Kennedy had various conditions, which may have been identifiable through DNA.

Amy mentions that she had a gene test in 2011 related to cancer concerns. Amy suggests that big data with DNA related technology could be a “game changer” for the ability to control people.

Billy mentions that if he gets a DNA test, then information can be extrapolated for all his relatives.

Amy suggests that the CCP is not trustworthy with DNA related technologies.

Nan mentions that many people are asking whether the CCP intentionally released the COVID virus.

Billy mentions the Wuhan Institute Of Virology. Nan injects that the institute had both military and civilian activities.

Billy mentions his experiences with data tracking on the internet. He suggests that if the technology exists to track you on the web, then the amount of data that can be put together by the CCP, who has not privacy concerns, is really scary.

Nan was surprised to find, in his research, that Google was sharing information and technology with a Chinese University that was receiving significant funding from the Chinese military for AI research.

Amy suggests that big data is the source of power for the 21st century. Billy shares his skepticism about backing up his data on the cloud. The team discusses the concern about data transfer.


Reggie asked for a reference to the 60 minutes video.

Larry is interested in increased CCP military aggression in the South China Sea. Nan suggests that the CCP is eager to test the Biden administration.

Dick wants to review this year. He believes China released COVID and that it came from a lab.

Mike discusses Klaus Schwab, the WEF and the effectiveness of lockdowns in fighting COVID. He asks about race or trait specific biological weapons. The team discusses many topics.

Al is curious about China’s resources. He wonders if they are struggling with water supply or other things. Nan discusses China’s need for an overseas market and their resource dependent economy. Nan explains various aspects of the Chinese economy and society.

Rory asks about Xi’s talk at the World Economic Forum and suggests that they are all working together. He discusses the Capitol events on January 6th.

Mike agrees with Rory’s assessment of the Capitol events and suggests the show covers “The Great Reset”.

Tom mentions the death of the guard on capitol hill, asking if it was caused by being struck by a fire extinguisher.

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